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Blodgett Peak

Hi,

I've been working on cleaning up a set of articles that have been very poorly written, cited, and often inaccurate data from a particular user.

I just noticed that you worked on the article - and I want to make sure that I didn't revert anything that worked on that should be there. For instance, I have only see the use of direct elevation numbers, rather than a calculation.

I'll check your changes more thoroughly - and just wanted to give you a heads up.--CaroleHenson (talk) 06:51, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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Fixed.  Buaidh  16:40, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

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At the bottom of Wikipedia:Userboxes, you're mentioned as a user who will make userboxes at a request. I'd like to get one with the following text: "This user comments at the drama boards to hopefully make them less of a drama board." or some variant of that text. Thanks. Tutelary (talk) 20:24, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

You may modify Template:User drama boards as you see fit. We need many more female Wikipedians like yourself. Yours aye,  Buaidh  16:03, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Tutelary (talk) 16:34, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Buaidh. In your work with templates, please take care to make sure that any image you add to a template is not one that is used under a claim of fair use (usually called "non-free" on Wikipedia). Non-free images are only permitted in article space - not in templates, on user pages, in categories, etc. --B (talk) 01:12, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the polite reminder. Yours aye,  Buaidh  02:11, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Tepozteco

I noticed that you work in Mexico on the Wikiproject Mountains. I need a bit of help if you can. I am actually working on an artist (I know nothing about mountains), but his bio says he lives on the side of a mountain in the Tepozteco Mountain Range near the village of Tepoztlán. When I looked for the mountains, it took me to an archeological site El Tepozteco, which references as a red link Sierra de Tepoztlan. I find nothing about a range of mountains under Tepoztlan, Tepozteco, Siera de Tepozteco or Sierra de Tepoztlan, on the Spanish Wikipedia either, but there is an article that talks about "the mountain" named Tepozteco.

Finding nothing on Wikipedia to clarify it, I went to the web. I find that there is a national park [1] which states that the park is in the Sierra del Ajusco. This site, [2] which talks about the town Tepoztlan says it is surrounded by a ridge, no name given *sigh*, among which is a sacred mountain Tepozteco. This book [3] says the valley the town is in lies in the basin between the Sierra del Ajusco and Sierra Madre del Sur. Going back to Wikipedia, Sierra del Ajusco says it is part of a chain called Sierra del Ajusco-Chichinauhtzin. Sierra Madre del Sur goes through Michoacan, Guerrero, and Oaxaca, so too far south for Morelos. Obviously, I am just finding all sorts of names, but none to clarify the name of the mountain range my guy lives in. All the Trip Advisor, Frommer's type references call it the Tepozteco Mountains, but I am still thinking that is the name of only one peak from the other sources I see. I tried Google maps search, but it does not name the mountains around the town. Is there some site you know of that could confirm the name of the mountain range? I don't want to put a red link in to the wrong name. Thanks SusunW (talk) 01:19, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

You can try the INEGI website. Yours aye,  Buaidh  15:26, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

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Don't forget the Colorado Wiknic this Sunday afternoon. We hope to see you there.  Buaidh  16:40, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you very much for the invite! I am unable to attend this year. tbc (talk) 02:20, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

What can I bring on Sunday?

Please let me know. Looking forward to meeting you. Plazak (talk) 00:59, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Bring yourself and whatever and you like to eat or drink. We'll have some snacks and drinks. We'll all share around. See you there.  Buaidh  20:33, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

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Edits to List of adjectival and demonymic forms for countries and nations reverted.

I have reverted your edits to List of adjectival and demonymic forms for countries and nations because they have introduced too many erroneous links to disambiguation pages. Please try again, but without making any disambiguation links. Cheers! bd2412 T 22:08, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

I went ahead and fixed everything, but please avoid making disambiguation links in the future. bd2412 T 22:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Disambiguation pages are quite appropriate for adjectives. This table is a mess. Yours aye,  Buaidh  22:26, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Where an intentional link is made to a disambiguation page, please follow WP:INTDABLINK, to prevent this from showing up as an error in the disambiguation reports. Cheers! bd2412 T 22:29, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Will do.  Buaidh  22:38, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Cheers! bd2412 T 22:38, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

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Confusion

Hi, from recent patrol log I saw that you are online :) ...Sorry to bother but I have one confusion if you could clear. See Ashtapailu. The page has been created today while the tag that it has for primary sources says February 2014. Article has only 2 edits. Just a thought - Is it purposely done by author ? Thanks! Peppy Paneer (talk) 19:05, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

My guess is that the article was created with another name and then re-created with this new name rather than moving the original article. Perhaps the company has changed its name and doesn't wish to be associated with its previous name. Yours aye,  Buaidh  19:19, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
May be...still not much clear to me. By the way, I found Yūki Tabata ...have a look same issue. Peppy Paneer (talk) 19:27, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure what's going on there. Looks rather suspicious.  Buaidh  19:32, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I couldn't understand it too, so thought of discussing first.
Well you brought one more point to this - "the article was created with another name and then re-created with this new name rather than moving the original article. Perhaps the company has changed its name and doesn't wish to be associated with its previous name." So you mean to say that in the first case Ashtapailu, it is possible that this company would have some other name and it had an article on Wikipedia. Now the company has changed the name and created a new article with new name rather than moving the old article. So, what happens to the article with old name ? and how does these two articles get interlinked (since primary sources tag is in past date) ? If you could clarify, I come across this almost everyday while patrolling new pages. It will be helpful. Face-smile.svg Thank you Peppy Paneer (talk) 19:50, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Many editors do not know how to move an article, so they create a new article and copy the old article to the new. Then they either delete the old article or create a redirect to the new article. Unfortunately, the article history does not get copied to the new article this way. A user who wishes to discard an article's history can also use this technique.
There is a Book:Ashtapailu which links to Ashtapailu. I'm not sure what the purpose of this book is.  Buaidh  20:35, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

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Naming references in Template:Cmt

Hi, Buaidh. I'm attempting to use {{Cmt}} in a mountain set index article (List of peaks named Kennedy, see my draft at User:Hike395/sandbox2). I'm running into a difficulty --- it seems that you named the references things like F_{{{name}}}, but because it's a SIA, I have multiple distinct peaks with the same name. So, I don't get multiple references to peakbagger: they all get mapped to the same reference. Is there a way around this? Are you naming the references to allow WP to combine them? If so, shouldn't they always be named F_{{{1}}} ?

Thanks for any help! —hike395 (talk) 11:54, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't recall why I chose the format F_{{{name|{{{1}}}}}} rather than F_{{{1}}} as the reference names. I have made your changes to Template:Cmt/sandbox. I am testing to make sure there are no conflicts before I make a final change. Thanks for this and all your work on mountains. We really appreciate your efforts. Yours aye,  Buaidh  14:19, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for all of the nice mountain tables! User:Doncram thinks that they look better than the SIA format that User:RedWolf and I put together back in 2004 --- and I agree with him. I am using List of peaks named Kennedy as a test case, and I would like to (eventually) convert all SIAs look something like List of mountain peaks of North America.
Re: naming references. One thing occurs to me -- you could name the references with the id number of the target citation.. something like pb_2342. I think that's guaranteed to be unique (and perhaps could be generalized beyond {{cmt}} and {{imt}}). —hike395 (talk) 15:06, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
The only need for a reference name is to provide a unique reference identifier. While we could create relevant names like pb_2342, I doubt that would create any additional value. I've updated both Template:Cmt and Template:Imt.  Buaidh  17:28, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

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Elevation of Denali

Please go to Talk:Denali#Precise metric elevation and explain what reliable source states that the elevation of Denali is known to a fraction of a meter, as claimed by your edit. Jc3s5h (talk) 20:46, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Please see Talk:Denali/Archive 2#Precise metric elevation. Yours aye,  Buaidh  14:17, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
I read Talk:Denali/Archive 2#Precise metric elevation. After that discussion was archived, a new article was published which I described at Talk:Denali#Precise metric elevation. In light of the new article, I consider clams of sub-meter precision to be not justified by the reliable sources. Please read the section I asked you to and justify why you think it is justifiable to quote the elevation to a tenth of a meter. Jc3s5h (talk) 15:07, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Why not just ask NGS? Yours aye,  Buaidh  19:08, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
You refuse to engage in meaningful discussion, so I will revert your unproven precision. Jc3s5h (talk) 22:17, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Apparently you have made up your mind. I really prefer research to debate. I'll let you know when I find additional information. Yours aye,  Buaidh  00:18, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

I am happy with the elevation as it now is, permanent snow cap to the nearest metre. But I note that with this edit the prominence was changed to 6140 and the source reverted to peakbagger. I don't want to make a federal case out of 4 metres of prominence, but I cannot find any explanation for the above change, on a subject which I thought we had agreed on September 23. Viewfinder (talk) 01:24, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

The elevation of the Isthmus of Rivas is 50 m. Yours aye,  Buaidh  06:05, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

After reverting your insertion of the canal commission report, I continued to try to figure out why you had added it and happened on this discussion, and now I finally understand. But I think the peakbagger website is sufficient to document the prominence (and it even explains what it means). Citing the canal commission report, I believe, is only confusing. At least to me. Thanks and happy editing! YBG (talk) 06:45, 29 December 2015 (UTC)